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		<title>By: Danne</title>
		<link>http://www.dotvoid.com/2009/12/free-weather-icons/comment-page-1/#comment-1891</link>
		<dc:creator>Danne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Aug 2010 12:04:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi, Tom,

No I don&#039;t think you should put a link and license information under every icon you use. Normally license and attribution information should be displayed in a &quot;suitable location&quot;. Most often in a web page footer or on a specifc about page. But hidden away in exif headers is to me, and I&#039;d imagine many others, not enough. Few website visitors would ever download the file and check the exif headers. So if you use hundreds of pics all over the place, how can anyone tell what is made by you and what is made by others?

As to how and for what the CC Attribution License is meant to be used anyone can read the license. Especially section 1.f where &quot;work&quot; is defined. Among many other things you will find &quot;a work of drawing, painting, architecture, sculpture, engraving or lithography&quot;. Photography is mentioned as well but as anyone can read it is just one of many things covered.

I&#039;m sure you would find reading section 4b interesting as well as it deals with restrictions for when &quot;You Distribute, or Publicly Perform the Work or Collections&quot;.

If you feel the license stops you from using the icons that is just fine. You obviously find other ways of satisfying your requirements.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi, Tom,</p>
<p>No I don&#8217;t think you should put a link and license information under every icon you use. Normally license and attribution information should be displayed in a &#8220;suitable location&#8221;. Most often in a web page footer or on a specifc about page. But hidden away in exif headers is to me, and I&#8217;d imagine many others, not enough. Few website visitors would ever download the file and check the exif headers. So if you use hundreds of pics all over the place, how can anyone tell what is made by you and what is made by others?</p>
<p>As to how and for what the CC Attribution License is meant to be used anyone can read the license. Especially section 1.f where &#8220;work&#8221; is defined. Among many other things you will find &#8220;a work of drawing, painting, architecture, sculpture, engraving or lithography&#8221;. Photography is mentioned as well but as anyone can read it is just one of many things covered.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m sure you would find reading section 4b interesting as well as it deals with restrictions for when &#8220;You Distribute, or Publicly Perform the Work or Collections&#8221;.</p>
<p>If you feel the license stops you from using the icons that is just fine. You obviously find other ways of satisfying your requirements.</p>
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		<title>By: Tom</title>
		<link>http://www.dotvoid.com/2009/12/free-weather-icons/comment-page-1/#comment-1888</link>
		<dc:creator>Tom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Aug 2010 07:15:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nice try, but: I won&#039;t use them. I hate it when people misuse the CC licenses for clip-art. I&#039;m using hundreds of small pics all over the place. Do you really suppose us to put a back-link AND license information under each of those?

Because if we don&#039;t: we have to adopt the license to the whole page (to avoid at least the license link - while still having to name the author for each pic).

The CC Attribution License was no meant to be implemented like this.

You should put the URL and license information in the image&#039;s meta data (as you do with music). It was NOT supposed to require _us_ putting back-links in addition (!) to this meta data on our websites.
Instead license information and back-links are meant for redistribution only. Makes a lot more sense, right?

Attribution as &quot;naming the author&quot; (as a text subscript under an image) was always meant for photographers and artists - not clip art designers.

With this license the icons are completely useless.

Thanks, but: no thanks! If I need weather icons, I will just go to opencliparts.org, type in &quot;weather&quot; and be done with it. Without any limitations, non-derivate restrictions, or back-links.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice try, but: I won&#8217;t use them. I hate it when people misuse the CC licenses for clip-art. I&#8217;m using hundreds of small pics all over the place. Do you really suppose us to put a back-link AND license information under each of those?</p>
<p>Because if we don&#8217;t: we have to adopt the license to the whole page (to avoid at least the license link &#8211; while still having to name the author for each pic).</p>
<p>The CC Attribution License was no meant to be implemented like this.</p>
<p>You should put the URL and license information in the image&#8217;s meta data (as you do with music). It was NOT supposed to require _us_ putting back-links in addition (!) to this meta data on our websites.<br />
Instead license information and back-links are meant for redistribution only. Makes a lot more sense, right?</p>
<p>Attribution as &#8220;naming the author&#8221; (as a text subscript under an image) was always meant for photographers and artists &#8211; not clip art designers.</p>
<p>With this license the icons are completely useless.</p>
<p>Thanks, but: no thanks! If I need weather icons, I will just go to opencliparts.org, type in &#8220;weather&#8221; and be done with it. Without any limitations, non-derivate restrictions, or back-links.</p>
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		<title>By: Danne</title>
		<link>http://www.dotvoid.com/2009/12/free-weather-icons/comment-page-1/#comment-1576</link>
		<dc:creator>Danne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Dec 2009 16:21:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes. The icons are free for commercial/non commercial purposes alike - as long as the icons are attributed with a link according to the license.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes. The icons are free for commercial/non commercial purposes alike &#8211; as long as the icons are attributed with a link according to the license.</p>
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		<title>By: grief</title>
		<link>http://www.dotvoid.com/2009/12/free-weather-icons/comment-page-1/#comment-1575</link>
		<dc:creator>grief</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Dec 2009 14:44:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>are the icon free for commercials sites too?
and really great icons!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>are the icon free for commercials sites too?<br />
and really great icons!!</p>
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		<title>By: Mats Lindh</title>
		<link>http://www.dotvoid.com/2009/12/free-weather-icons/comment-page-1/#comment-1562</link>
		<dc:creator>Mats Lindh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Dec 2009 22:23:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great to see some interest in Yr.no from our neighbours too, and some very nice icons! Good stuff!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great to see some interest in Yr.no from our neighbours too, and some very nice icons! Good stuff!</p>
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		<title>By: Maarten</title>
		<link>http://www.dotvoid.com/2009/12/free-weather-icons/comment-page-1/#comment-1561</link>
		<dc:creator>Maarten</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Dec 2009 20:49:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ok, sounds reasonable enough. Will use that then, thanks alot again for both the icons and for this information!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ok, sounds reasonable enough. Will use that then, thanks alot again for both the icons and for this information!</p>
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		<title>By: Danne</title>
		<link>http://www.dotvoid.com/2009/12/free-weather-icons/comment-page-1/#comment-1560</link>
		<dc:creator>Danne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Dec 2009 20:40:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>On every page where you display weather data that is.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On every page where you display weather data that is.</p>
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		<title>By: Danne</title>
		<link>http://www.dotvoid.com/2009/12/free-weather-icons/comment-page-1/#comment-1559</link>
		<dc:creator>Danne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Dec 2009 20:39:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yr allows you to use the weather data for free - even for commercial use - as long as you clearly state, including a link, that the weather data is from yr.no.

More info in English here: &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.yr.no/english/1.2025949&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.yr.no/english/1.2025949&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yr allows you to use the weather data for free &#8211; even for commercial use &#8211; as long as you clearly state, including a link, that the weather data is from yr.no.</p>
<p>More info in English here: <a href="http://www.yr.no/english/1.2025949" rel="nofollow">http://www.yr.no/english/1.2025949</a></p>
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		<title>By: Maarten</title>
		<link>http://www.dotvoid.com/2009/12/free-weather-icons/comment-page-1/#comment-1558</link>
		<dc:creator>Maarten</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Dec 2009 19:35:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nice icons, looking forward to using them, but I am not sure about the rules on the yr.no site for the data.
I&#039;m looking for free weather data for my travel sites, but the norwegian is a bit too much for me ;-)
Is it allowed to use the data for free on commercials sites, and if so, what are the rules? 
If you don&#039;t have time or say IANAL, then just thanks for the icons :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice icons, looking forward to using them, but I am not sure about the rules on the yr.no site for the data.<br />
I&#8217;m looking for free weather data for my travel sites, but the norwegian is a bit too much for me <img src='http://www.dotvoid.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /><br />
Is it allowed to use the data for free on commercials sites, and if so, what are the rules?<br />
If you don&#8217;t have time or say IANAL, then just thanks for the icons <img src='http://www.dotvoid.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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